Bring your spirit - Discuss!

[Sahlgrenska]

I hope everybody is checkin' this one out and maybe consider some actions about the tonights failure/slack. - Because, when we have alts/casuals/nonraiders along, its within our (raiders) sake to keep it going, keep it up.
As I can see It'll be some more of these nights inc. Cuz ppls going vacations/military etc.
Just keep it in your minds guys, if you really want some progress going, even if there's some ppls missing, GIVE ALL.. PUSH IT - I'm not pointing anyone out, its for EVERYONE.
OH! One more thing - DONT BE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP DURING RAIDS. Dont just wait for something to happen, grab it and help eachother out :)
(Like the healing-assign, lets do it togheter) - I really hope you'll read this and help me out to bring our best spirits to the INC raids!

Let us do the sundaynight raid easier for our poor officers, and most important, HAVING FUN WHILE PLAYING ;>

GL AND GN
/ Sahl
:party:

[Nazak]

I dont know who screw the raid up this night, and thats doesn't matter for me. I got kinda pissed this night because I felt that I completely wasted my time. It's fine with me with 3-4 hours wipe against bosses like yogg since he is a difficult one in our progress, you'll have to practice a bit before you will get him down. But it's really disapointing that people slack that much against farm bosses, so we actuly wipe, and in this case a lot. I dont know how much experience the new guys have in ulduar, but if they dont have I suggest them to study the fight in a video and read tactics, and if they have a question or two dont be afraid to speak up in raid. rather spend few minutes to get our tacs repeated than wiping several times because they dont know what to do. again I dont know how it was possible to wipe so much, but against hodir I spend too much time to get players out of their iceblock because of their slack.
I hoped we would be able to clear the whole way to vezzax like last week, so we had plenty of time to practice against yogg. Now im off the next week, but when I get back I really hope people will start focusing, even against farm bosses, and if not, I will suggest demoting players who slack too much.
Sorry for all this, but I had to get it out, since I got really pissed in this raid. So shape up, or stay out of the raids!

[Maloko]

Dont worry for saying sorry Nazak.
you have valid points, although what Sahl is saying, we suffering holidays.
Hard to get the raid filled up with regular players.
Although i have to say, 2 or 3 casuals in the raid shouldnt put a dent as big as yesterday in a raid.

It was indeed a total waste of time.
I think we have to tighten the ropes a bit more again considering people not moving properly and slacking.

People who over and over are the last to be back after a wipe.
Tbh im done with that shit, others can type and be intime aswell, so theres really 0 excuse for that, in the end (i kept count).. only that shit (basically from 1 guy and im not calling names, but its more a general issue) made us lose 12 minutes on a <2h raid.
For the record.. thats 1 person responsible for a 10% timeloss delay over a raid.
Dont think YOUR 1 min afk after a wipe wont matter, as it does!
(keep in mind, if you feel the urge to defend yourself here, you plea guilty on this)

This shit makes people lose focus and take your slacking as a reason and oppurtunity to slack themself aswell.
Result : debuffs/ buffs not applied correctly, dps loss, healing loss .. iow : yesterday.


We have to keep pushing it to the edge ladies, each and every raid.
All of us.
High speed on a raid will keep high focus. :D:D

[Myca]

You mean me? ;)
Im kinda slacky in that, will improve that after my vacation (busy with too many things i guess).

I hope you all do well! We will clear Ulduar pretty soon :)

[ImArespectlessFucktard]

Is SUMMERTIME :D.
I think stopping raiding for 2/3 weeks is the better thing to do. Even if we get 25 ppl online, with all the respect, raid group is not the usual one. Might be frustrating for all the raiders wiping on farm bosses and not reaching Yogg Saron and Vezak.
Just stop for a while, go out, summer is imba, find a chick, drink beers, smoke joints, stay outside and enjoy the weather :).

P.S. Also guilds way more hardcore than us has problems in getting ppl online, so ppl don't worry, hold on 2-3 weeks and we'll be back on business 100%.

This is the 4th summer in a row i am witness of this general slacking, and is quite natural: go to your window and watch outside, do u still want to stay inside playing WoW??? :)